[OntVFR] OntVFR Digest, Vol 42, Issue 12 FJR discussions

Andrew Carlyle carlyle.andrew at gmail.com
Thu Aug 10 11:27:43 EDT 2017

If you really want power and handling in a sport touring bike it looks like
the KTM Super Duke 1290 could be just the ticket. More powerful than any of
its competition at 173 horse power but according to the reviews is
comfortable to ride and will accommodate a passenger comfortably.  Only
about 450 lbs dry weight too.

I rode last year in California with a guy who had one. My Ducati is no
slouch in the power compartment and on paper should be somewhat close to
the KTM but in the real world it just didn't seem like it. He would crank
the throttle and just be gone.

I have to admit that I have been noodling on trading the Ducati for one of
these things. I know its not sensible and I know it would be expensive but
every time I look at this bike my eyes kind of glaze over and I feel a sort
of thrill in the pit of my stomach. Maybe I need therapy.

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Randle Taylor <randle.taylor at gmail.com>

> I've ridden a 2016 FJR a few times. It is an absolute rocket ship, very
> comfortable, handles well for such a heavy bike, and highly adjustable to
> suit your needs but I agree with Brad's assessment on the engine
> character.  A little too "clinical" or electrical for me but I feel the
> same way about most I4's I've ridden.   It just lacks the visceral feeling
> of a twin/triple/V4.
> On 10 August 2017 at 09:59, mike mckinnon <2bikemike at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Brad what do you mean by character?
>> I've ridden my buds 2007 and now his 2016 replacement.   Both bikes feel
>> like you're sitting on a reactor.  He put over 200k kliks on the 07 and not
>> a glitch.  The throttle was power on demand.  That thig was a rocket.  But,
>> egos like higher bars, adjustable, are what I consider better cuz I'm older
>> in the back, even though my brain still likes to be 20.   My bud is also 65
>> and he puts kliks on his bike traveling all over US and quebec and ontario
>> to fjr &ST rallies cuz he had an ST before.  He is adiment the fjr is
>> better all round.   Fjr has great luggage space with top case like my wing
>> has.
>> Oh ya it has a center stand standard the vfr 100 does not.
>> So based on my experience and exposure to fjr my feelings about them are
>> different.   If I was ever to change my vfr it would definitely be fjr.
>> These days I putter on my c50t mostly but when it cools off I speed up to
>> vfr for about 4-5hrs only.  I'm to cramped on vfr now to go longer.  The
>> fjr is less cramped for me.  That would be another bonus I'd get on one.
>> But retired with 3 bikes it's ok to keep the vfr as is with helli's as is.
>>   When I need fast & powerful  the wing fills that bill.
>> Besides busy, how else is Moncton for ya?
>> On Aug 10, 2017 7:06 AM, "Taylor, Brad" <brad.taylor at tc.gc.ca> wrote:
>>> I've been without a VFR for almost two years now as I sold my RWB 2007
>>> in the summer of 2015. I've been so busy since that I haven't even given
>>> another bike much thought but when I take the plunge again it will probably
>>> be for a VFR 1200. The additional power, great ergonomics, luggage an
>>> appearance are just the right balance. I've looked at the FJR and at one
>>> time it was at the top of my list but the motor lacks character, much like
>>> many inline 4s and that is so important to me. My second choice would be a
>>> Ducati Multistrada. Cost is the only thing that will probably keep me off a
>>> Duc.
>>> Brad Taylor
>>> Civil Aviation Safety Inspector/Inspecteur de la sécurité de l'aviation
>>> civile
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 13:36:03 -0600
>>> From: David Davidson <did at rogers.com>
>>> To: "The Ontario VFR Club mailing list." <ontvfr at vfr.on.ca>
>>> Subject: Re: [OntVFR] 1st time 25 yrs I am vfrless.
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>>> FJR's seem to have a universal following.  I'm thinking about a 97-02
>>> ST, probably more for value and reliability than anything else.
>>> Happy to hear what others think...
>>> ---David
>>> > On Aug 9, 2017, at 12:20 PM, mike mckinnon <2bikemike at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Fjr is more like an enhanced vfr than the st.   More power and less
>>> heavy dry weight.  Quick handling as needed.  With the top case it compares
>>> to goldwing storage.
>>> >
>>> > Can you tell I like the fjr over ST?
>>> >
>>> > cheers
>>> > 2bikemike
>>> >
>>> >> On Aug 9, 2017 1:02 PM, "David Davidson" <did at rogers.com> wrote:
>>> >> John - any feedback on what the bike is like for riding 2 up? I'm
>>> getting very close to joining the FJR/ST camp for better touring and riding
>>> with a passenger.
>>> >>
>>> >> ---David
>>> >>
>>> >>> On Aug 9, 2017, at 7:52 AM, John Power <jksp1944 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Sold my Vfr and bought a 2009 CBF1000A. Find it is superior to a VFR
>>> >>> in all respect especially touring. It is fast, handles excellent,
>>> >>> great brakes and for long distance the stock seat is the best I have
>>> >>> ever seen. VFR has great engine but is not even close to the
>>> >>> CBF1000A in all other respects John Power
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> On Aug 9, 2017, at 12:17 AM, Peter Chang <pjchang at rogers.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Sounds like the right choice..... If I wised up, I might make the
>>> same choice.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> 3 tanks of fuel through the vfr this year....
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:10 PM, quentin at lageer.com
>>> >>>> <quentin at lageer.com> wrote:
>>> >>>> Well it was a mixed emotions day, but my 92 has found a new home.
>>>   I have not been riding it very much over the last 3 or 4 years. Maybe
>>> putting 2000km on a year if I was lucky. The last 2 years I didn't even
>>> have it on the road at all.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> My boys are really liking the kid size 4wheelers and I am sure my
>>> bil is wishing I would get my own machine and the selling of the VFR was
>>> the first step in daddy getting his own machine.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> The vfr went to a nice guy in TO who works in Stoffville. So I am
>>> sure that it will get more use then what what I am able to do.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> So I will go back into lurking mode and enjoy the commentaries that
>>> go on about reg/rec, oil vs wd40, tires, seargent vs Corbin, Dino vs
>>> synth.... the list goes on.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> So see yah on the 4wheeler trails.
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